HANSLOPE VILLAGE HALL CIO ANNUAL REPORT AND FINANCIAL STATEMENTS FOR THE YEAR ENDED 31 MARCH 2024
CHARITY NUMBER 1165557
Hanslope Village Hall Newport Road Hanslope Milton Keynes MK19 7NZ
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HANSLOPE VILLAGE HALL CHARITABLE INCORPORATED ORGANISATION (ao} CHARITY NUMBER 1165557 INDEPENDENT EXAMINER'S REPORT FOR THE YEAR ENDED 31 MARCH 2024 Res ertive Res onsibilities of Trustees and Examiner The charity's trustees are rest)onsible for the preparation of the accounts. The charity'5 trustees consider that an audit is not required for this year under section 144121 of the Charities Act 2011 (the 2011 Actl and that an independent examination is needed. It is my responsibiltty to: - examine the accounts under section 145 of the Act- - to follow the procedure5 laid down in the General Directions gNen by the Charity Commissioners under sertion 14515llbl of the Act- and - to state whether particular matters have come to my attention. Basis of Inde endent Examiner's Stat My examination was carried out in accordance with the general Directions given by the Charity Commission. An examination includes a review of the accounting record5 kept by the chartty and a comparison of the accounts presented wtth those records. It also includes consideration of any unusual items or disclosures in the accounts, and seeking explanations from you as trustees concerning any such matters. The procedures underraken do not provide all the evidence that would be required in an audit and consequently no opinion is given as to whether the accounts present a'true and fair view, and the report 15 limited to those matters set out in the statement below. Inde endent Examiner's Statement In connection with my examination, no matter has come to my attention.. lal which gives me reasonable cause to believe that in any material respert the trustees have not met the requirements to ensure that: proper accounting records are kept in accordance with section 130 of the Act,. and Financial Statements are prepared which agree with the accounting CordS and comply with the accounting requirements of the Act; or Ibl to which, in my opinion, attention should be drawn in order to enable a proper understanding of the Financial Statements to be reached. K Browning ACM Date Page 2 of 13
HANSLOPE VILLAGE HALL CHARITABLE INCORPORATED ORGANISATION (CIO) CHARITY NUMBER 1165557 INDEPENDENT EXAMINER'S REPORT FOR THE YEAR ENDED 31 MARCH 2024
Respective Responsibilities of Trustees and Examiner
The charity's trustees are responsible for the preparation of the accounts. The charity's trustees consider that an audit is not required for this year under section 144(2) of the Charities Act 2011 (the 2011 Act) and that an independent examination is needed.
It is my responsibility to:
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examine the accounts under section 145 of the Act;
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to follow the procedures laid down in the General Directions given by the Charity Commissioners under section 145(5)(b) of the Act; and
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to state whether particular matters have come to my attention.
Basis of Independent Examiner's Statement
My examination was carried out in accordance with the general Directions given by the Charity Commission. An examination includes a review of the accounting records kept by the charity and a comparison of the accounts presented with those records. It also includes consideration of any unusual items or disclosures in the accounts, and seeking explanations from you as trustees concerning any such matters. The procedures undertaken do not provide all the evidence that would be required in an audit and consequently no opinion is given as to whether the accounts present a 'true and fair view' and the report is limited to those matters set out in the statement below.
Independent Examiner's Statement
In connection with my examination, no matter has come to my attention:
(a) which gives me reasonable cause to believe that in any material respect the trustees have not met the requirements to ensure that:
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proper accounting records are kept in accordance with section 130 of the Act; and
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Financial Statements are prepared which agree with the accounting records and comply with the accounting requirements of the Act;
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(b) to which, in my opinion, attention should be drawn in order to enable a proper understanding of the Financial Statements to be reached.
K Browning ACMA
Date
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HANSLOPE VILLAGE HALL CHARITABLE INCORPORATED ORGANISATION (CIO) CHARITY NUMBER 1165557 ANNUAL REPORT FOR THE YEAR ENDED 31 MARCH 2024
Governing Document
Hanslope Village Hall was built in the middle of the nineteenth century. Originally a village school it became the Property of St James the Great Church Sunday School Charity and was used as a Parish Hall. The conveyance document being dated 3rd December 1935. The Diocesan Trustees (Oxford) became Custodians of the property on 14th November 1977. The property was held on a forty year lease under a trust deed dated 12 June 1979 (and amended in 1983 and 1996) as a public charitable trust named Hanslope Village Hall Charity Registration Number 281981. In 1979 an extension to the Large Hall was added and a new toilet block. The Hanslope Village Hall CIO Charity Registration Number 1165557 took over full responsibility for the lease and all assets, creditors and Debtors of the 1979 Hanslope Village Hall Charity on 1st April 2016. A new 40 year Lease was successfully negotiated between the Diocesan Trustees (Oxford) and the Hanslope Village Hall CIO Charity Registration Number 1165557 and signed on 3rd April 2020. An extension store was added in 2021 funded by Section 106 money from MK Council.
Objects of the Charity
Hanslope Village Hall shall be held on trust as a Village Hall for the use of the inhabitants of the Parish of Hanslope without distinction of sex or of political, religious or other opinions including use for meetings, lectures and classes and for other forms of recreation and leisure-time occupation with the object of improving the conditions of life for the said inhabitants.
Summary of the Main Activities in relation to these Objects
Hanslope Village Hall is available for hire by village organisations and individuals at preferential rates over those offered to non-residents of the Parish and other organisations. Regular activities include a pre¬school, various sports group activities, Women's Institute meetings, a drama group who stage shows in the Hall, a theatre dance group, Line Dancing. The Hall is regularly hired for children's parties and adult celebrations of one sort or another. Regular events are held to raise funds for the Village Hall activities.
Trustees - 2023-2024
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HANSLOPE VILLAGE HALL CHARITABLE INCORPORATED ORGANISATION (CIO) CHARITY NUMBER 1165557 ANNUAL REPORT FOR THE YEAR ENDED 31 MARCH 2024
Board of Trustee selection
Apart from the first charity trustees, every appointed trustee must be appointed for a term of three years by a resolution passed at a properly convened meeting of the charity trustees. In selecting individuals for appointment as appointed charity trustees, the charity trustees must have regard to the skills, knowledge and experience needed for the effective administration of the CIO. Each user group may nominate a Representative User and the Representative Users together will appoint one nominated trustee to serve for three years.
Reserves Policy
A reserve of £4,000 is held within the General Fund to cover fluctuations in income receipts and expenses payments and emergency expenses such as urgent repairs. A reserve is held to satisfy the condition of the lease to return the hall to the Parochial Church Council in "good and substantial repair" at the end of the term.
Chairman's Report (next page)
Chairman’s Report
The Board of Trustees met on six occasions during the year. The executive committee which comprises the chair, vice chair, the secretary, treasurer and manager met on seven occasions.
2023-2024 was a busy and successful year for Hanslope Village Hall. The hall is being well used by our regular hirers. Occasional private hires have increased in number, taking place mostly at the weekends. Hallmaster, the on-line booking system, is working extremely well and we think has helped increase the number of our occasional bookings. We were able to maintain our Hire Charges at the same level for a further year. Gillian Glanville, our Hall Manager, has streamlined many of our operating systems and we are grateful to her for her hard work during the year. A key safe has been installed on the outside wall making it easier for occasional hirers to obtain and return the access door keys. Mac Millington has taken on the roll of vice-chair and during the year updated and expanded all our Policies and Procedures documents. Village Hall documents and records are stored in the Cloud and this year we switched from OneDrive to Dropbox for this storage. Chantel Coxhill, our contract cleaner has worked wonders in the Hall and there has been a huge improvement in cleanliness. A new industrial vacuum was purchased during the year.
The fundraising team ably led by Jenni Alliss and Mat Irvine ran a very successful series of fundraising events during the year. Events have included three Hamex events including SmallSpace. Other fundraisers have included a Tabletop sale, the Horticultural Show, two Craft Fairs and a café at the village’s Scarecrow event. The team were supported by a number of loyal volunteers whose involvement with the charity is greatly appreciated. A volunteer’s “thank you” lunch was held in the summer.
A comprehensive sound system has been installed in both Halls and during the year we built an audio-visual cupboard in the large hall to operate both the sound system and the theme lighting. This required some rerouting of a lot of lighting cables but has made it much easier for both the lights and sound system to be operated by hirers. As acknowledged in last year’s report the Feoffee Charity gave a grant of £3528 towards this project.
A CCTV system of cameras and video recorder has been installed and has greatly improved our security and enabled a reduction in our annual insurance costs. It can be accessed remotely via the internet by the manager. As mentioned in last year’s report we received a grant of £1000 from Thames Valley Police to fund this project.
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HANSLOPE VILLAGE HALL CHARITABLE INCORPORATED ORGANISATION (CIO) CHARITY NUMBER 1165557 ANNUAL REPORT FOR THE YEAR ENDED 31 MARCH 2024
During the year the Gas Main supplying the village hall had to be renewed and we took the opportunity to also relocate the gas meter to a more appropriate position on the wall of the small hall. By removing a partition wall between the chair store and pre-school’s store we were able to reorganise the chair store, so it works in a more efficient way.
Jenni Allis and Mac Millington have kept the car parks tidy and well stocked with plants. Raised bumpers to prevent vehicles hitting the fence or running over the planted area have been installed.
I wish to record my grateful thanks to all of my fellow Trustees who have worked diligently and very hard during the year to keep our Village Hall operational and popular.
Dr John Sorrell
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HANSLOPE VILLAGE HALL CHARITABLE INCORPORATED ORGANISATION ICIO) CHARITY NUMBER 1165557 DECLARATION FOR THE YEAR ENDED 31 MARCH 2024 We declare that the Trustees have approved the annual report by an on-line vote on +26th January 2025 and this will be recorded in the minutes of the next Board of Trustee Meeting. or Chair of Trustees Date- ev Treasurer Date= lenni Alliss Secretary Date Page 8 of 13
HANSLOPE VILLAGE HALL CHARITABLE INCORPORATED ORGANISATION (CIO) CHARITY NUMBER 1165557 STATEMENT OF FINANCIAL ACTIVITIES FOR THE YEAR ENDED 31 MARCH 2024
| FOR THE YEAR ENDED 31 MARCH Note INCOME Hall Hiring Income 34,108 35,012 Donations 182 92 Section 106 monies 2,754 0 Parish Precept 5,000 4,000 Other Grants 5,288 Investment Income 2 217 29 42,261 44,421 EXPENDITURE Hall Running Costs 3 (30,125) (31,286) Governance Costs 3 (9,257) (10,232) (39,382) (41,519) 2,879 2,902 Investment Gains / (Losses) 0 0 NET OPERATING INCOME FOR THE YEAR 2,879 2,902 FUNDRAISING ACTIVITY Fundraising Income 8,110 3,619 Fundraising Expenses 3 (2,555) 1,011 - 5,556 2,608 CAPITAL MOVEMENTS Capital Grants Received (106 Fund) 0 0 Capital Grants Spent (106 Fund) 0 0 Depreciation 6 (15,133) (13,149) (15,133) (13,149) NET MOVEMENT IN FUNDS (6,698) (7,639) 2023 2024 |
Charity Commission figures £ £ Income (including grants) 42,261 Fundraising 8,110 50,371 Expenses (39,382) Fundraising (2,555) Depreciation (15,133) (57,070) Profit (6,698) Summary 2023-2024 Income less expenditure 2,879 Section 106 expenditure 0 Depreciation (-15,133) FundraisingProfit 5,556 TOTAL (-6,698) |
Charity Commission figures £ £ Income (including grants) 42,261 Fundraising 8,110 50,371 Expenses (39,382) Fundraising (2,555) Depreciation (15,133) (57,070) Profit (6,698) Summary 2023-2024 Income less expenditure 2,879 Section 106 expenditure 0 Depreciation (-15,133) FundraisingProfit 5,556 TOTAL (-6,698) |
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| (6,698) | ||
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HANSLOPE VILLAGE HALL CHARITABLE INCORPORATED ORGANISATION ICIOI CHARITY NUMBER 1165557 BALANCE SHEET AT 31 MARCH 2024 2024 2023 FIXED ASSETS Tangible Assets Investments 24.326 37.192 24,326 37,192 CURRENT ASSETS Cash at Bank and in Hand Debtor5 and Prepayments io 26.641 3,446 22,255 5.469 30.087 54,413 27,724 64,916 CURRENT LIABIUTIES Creditors and Accruals 14.476} 18,2821 NET ASSETS 49,937 56,635 ACCUMULATED FUNDS Balance Brought Forward Prior year adjustment Net Movement in Funds Le55 sertion 106 received Balante Carried Fonvard 56.635 25,109 16,6981 31,526 io 49,937 56,635 We declare that the Trustees have approved these Financial Statements and have authorised u5 to sign them on their behalf. John Sorr Choirol Tnjstees Date 26-1-?J- Garet Treusurer Date iii Pagè 8 of 13
HANSLOPE VILLAGE HALL CHARITABLE INCORPORATED ORGANISATION (CIO) CHARITY NUMBER 1165557 NOTES - 2023-2024
(Forming part of the Financial Statements)
1 Accounting Policies
The principle accounting policies of the Charity are set out below:
Basis of Preparation
These Financial Statements have been prepared in accordance with accounting standards, Accounting and Reporting by Charities - Statement of Recommended Practice (SORP 2005), and the Charities Act 2011, under the accruals and going concern basis.
These accounts have been prepared on the basis of historic cost (except that investments are shown at market value).
There has been no change to the accounting policies since last year, and no changes have been made to Financial Statements for previous years.
Incoming Resources
Incoming Resources are included in the Financial Statements when the charity becomes entitled to the resources, the trustees are virtually certain they will receive the resources, and the monetary value can be measured with sufficient reliability.
Where incoming resources have related expenditure (as with fundraising income) the incoming resources and related expenditure are reported gross in the Financial Statements.
Grants and donations are only included in the Financial Statements when the charity has unconditional entitlement to them. Tax reclaims are included at the same time as the gift to which they relate.
The value of voluntary help received is not included but is described in the annual report.
Investment income is included in the accounts when receivable.
Investment Gains / (Losses) includes any gain or loss on the sale of investments and any gain or loss resulting from revaluing investments to market value at the end of the year.
Expenditure and Liabilities
Liabilities are recognised as soon as there is a legal or constructive obligation committing the charity to pay out resources.
Grants and Donations
Building improvements funded directly by grants paid to contractors are included as income and expenditure within the Financial Statements.
Other grants and donations are included within the Financial Statements as income once they have been received and there are no conditions to be met relating to them which remain in the control of the charity.
Fixed Assets and Depreciation
Assets are capitalised if they can be used for more than one year, and cost at least £500.
Investments quoted on a recognised stock exchange are valued at market value at the year end.
Depreciation is provided to write off the cost less estimated residual value (and grants where appropriate)
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HANSLOPE VILLAGE HALL CHARITABLE INCORPORATED ORGANISATION (CIO) CHARITY NUMBER 1165557
NOTES - 2023-2024
(Forming part of the Financial Statements)
of tangible fixed assets by instalments over their estimated useful economic lives as follows:
| Building and Improvements 10% per annum on original known Plant and Machinery 25% per annum on original known vestment Income Bank Interest COIF Interest - none held |
cost cost 2024 2023 £ £ 217 29 0.00 217 29 |
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2 Investment Income
3 Expenditure
Fees for Examining the Financial Statements
No fees were paid for the independent examination of these Financial Statements.
Analyses of Expenditure
The resources expended have been analysed on the functional basis provided by Accounting and Reporting by Charities - Statement of Recommended Practice (SORP 2005).
| Fundraising Expenses | 2024 | 2023 |
|---|---|---|
| £ | £ | |
| Event and Administration Expenses | 2555 | 1011 |
| Advertising | 0 | |
| 100 Club Prizes | 1094 | |
| 2,555 | 2,105 | |
| Hall Running Costs | 2024 | 2023 |
| £ | £ | |
| Rent and Rates | 411 | 342 |
| Heat, Light and Power | 3159 | 2972 |
| Travelling Expenses (manager) | 0 | 0 |
| Printing, Stationery & Software | 863 | 1273 |
| Equipment Hire, purchase and Maintenance | 10176 | 2148 |
| Maintenance/Cleaning | 11137 | 16814 |
| General Expenses/insurance | 3566 | 5328 |
| Staff expenses | 167 | 160 |
| Hall Management Costs (includes joining fee ACRE) | 0 | 65 |
| Professional Fees | 150 | 1819 |
| Licences | 497 | 365 |
| 30,125 | 31,286 | |
| Governance Costs | 2024 | 2023 |
| £ | £ | |
| Telephone and internet | 820 | 806 |
| Legal Fees | 29 | 6 |
| 849 | 812 |
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HANSLOPE VILLAGE HALL CHARITABLE INCORPORATED ORGANISATION (CIO) CHARITY NUMBER 1165557 NOTES - 2023-2024
(Forming part of the Financial Statements)
4 Employees
| Gross Wages and Salaries Employer's National Insurance Contributions |
2024 2023 £ £ 8408 9420 0 0 8,408 9,420 |
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5 Trustees and Other Related Parties
Trustee Expenses
No payment or reimbursement of out-of-pocket expenses have been made to any trustee or to a third party for any expenses incurred by a trustee during the year.
Related Party Transactions
No related party transactions have been undertaken by the charity during the year.
Tangible Fixed Assets
A unanimous minuted resolution of the Trustees on 12th July 2016 agreed to change the method of depreciation for these accounts to the straight line method:
| Building and Improvements 10% per annum on original known Plant and Machinery 25% per annum on original known £ At 1 April 2023 126263 2)Tables 17/10/2023 5 months @ 25% 3) cupboard 31/10/23 5 months @ 25% 4) Roller shutter 13/11/23 4 months @ 25% At 31 March 2024 126263 Depreciation At 1 April 2023 95569 Charge for year 12626 2)Tables 17/10/2023 5 months @ 25% 3) cupboard 31/10/23 5 months @ 25% 4) Roller shutter 13/11/23 4 months @ 25% At 31 March 2024 108195 Net Book Value At 1 April 2023 30694 At 31 March 2024 18068 Investment Assets NONE Building Improvements |
cost cost £ 9141 226 1350 690 11407 2642 2285 24 141 58 5149 6499 6258 2024 £ 0 Furniture & Fittings |
Total £ 135404 226 1350 690 137670 98211 14911 24 141 58 113344 37193 |
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| 24326 | ||
| 2023 £ 0 |
- 7 Investment Assets
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HANSLOPE VILLAGE HALL CHARITABLE INCORPORATED ORGANISATION (CIO) CHARITY NUMBER 1165557 NOTES - 2023-2024
(Forming part of the Financial Statements)
8 Debtors and Prepayments
| Amounts falling due within one year Hiring Debtors Gift Aid Prepayments 9 Creditors and Accruals Amounts falling due within one year Creditors 100 Club Prize income in advance - includes advance bookings Bank current account Section 106 Income in advance Accruals & Deferred Income (PAYE) |
2024 735 2712 3,446 2024 £ 1730 2396 183 168 4,476 |
2023 £ 3255 0 2214 |
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| 5,469 | ||
| 2023 £ 5277 2588 0 417 |
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| 8,282 |
10 Accumulated Funds
Analysis
| Tangible Assets Investments Cash Savings account Debtors and Prepayments Creditors and Accruals |
General Fund Fund £ £ 0 24,326 0 0 458 0 26,000 0 3,446 0 (4,476) 0 25,428 24,326 Fixed Asset |
Total Fund £ £ 24,326 0 0 183 641 26,000 0 3,446 0 (4,476) 183 49,937 Fundraising |
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General Fund
The General Fund is the main fund of the Trust into which all of the income for the use of the Village Hall is placed and from which all the operating expenditure is borne. In addition, donations, bequests and grants which are not restricted in use are included here.
| Fund brought forward from 2023 Add: Net operating Income for the year At 31 March 2024 |
Total £ 112,797 2,879 |
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| 115,676 |
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HANSLOPE VILLAGE HALL CHARITABLE INCORPORATED ORGANISATION (CIO) CHARITY NUMBER 1165557 NOTES - 2023-2024
(Forming part of the Financial Statements)
Fixed Asset Fund
This fund is made up of the tangible fixed assets of the Trust. It includes building improvements which are being depreciated and will belong to the Parochial Church Council at the end of the lease. It also includes items such as tables and chairs (described as Plant & Machinery) which belong to the Trust and are being depreciated.
| £ Fund brought forward 30,694 plus additions 2023-2024 0 TOTAL 30,694 Less: Asset Depreciation (12,626) At 31 March 2024 18,068 Other Building Improvements |
£ Fund brought forward 30,694 plus additions 2023-2024 0 TOTAL 30,694 Less: Asset Depreciation (12,626) At 31 March 2024 18,068 Other Building Improvements |
Plant & Machinery £ 0 0 0 |
Furniture & Fixtures Total £ 6,499 37,193 2,266 2,266 8,765 39,459 |
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| (12,626) 18,068 |
0 0 |
(2,507) (15,133) 6,258 24,326 |
Fundraising Fund
This fund is made up of income raised from the fundraising activities of the Trust. It is set aside to pay for capital items and major projects and not to be used against general running expenses of the hall, however, it may be used in this way if considered necessary by the Trustees.
| Fund brought forward Add: Net Income from Fundraising Activity At 31 March 2024 |
Total £ 39,525 5,556 |
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| 45,081 |
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ohn.e.sorrell@
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Katharine Browning katharine.browning@hotmail.co.uk
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maggiegeaney1 @aol.com; Lorraine., John Sorrell
Re.. March 24 accounts
Thanks bothl
From: maggiegeaneyl@aol.tom maggiegeaneyl@aol.com
Sent: 22 March 2025 11..26
To: Lorraine lorraine@hanslopevillagehall.co.uk- John Sorrell john.e.sorrell@gmail.com
Cc: Katharine Browning katharine.browning@hotmail.co.uk
Subject: Re.. March 24 accounts
Hi All
One problem easily solved. thank you everyone.
Kind regards
Maggie
On Saturday 22 March 2025 at 10."55.'58 GMT, John Sorrell john.e.sorrell@gmail.com wrote..
Thanks Lorraine,
I think it should be entered into the year accounts for when it was paid. This would mean leaving 2023-2024
accounts as they a.
John
John Sorrell
12 Weavers End, H8nslope
Miltr)n Keynes MK19 7PA
01908 510747
07889181158
On Sal, 22 Mar 2025, 10.'51 Lorraine.
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Date: Fri, 21 Mar 2025, 22'.54
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Good evening John
I have had a quick look at the xero profrt and k)ss and i think there may be a mis posting error,
although canl be certain without access to the hard copy InvolS.
If you look on hall hire for 21312023 reference FEOFFEE there are some strange dates for an
invoice in 2023 referencing 2025.1 wonder rf they were posted with the wrong date after i did
the accounts. as the figures agreed when I had finished.
As far as the other reports are ConMed I will attach what I saved, but would have expected
Gareth to give you hard copies with the year end paperwork.
If you have any further questions i will be home all day tomorrow until 6.30 pm 01775 821634
Kind regards
Maggie
On Wednesday 19 March 2025 at 21'.55:25 GMT. hn.e.
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HI Maggie,
Sorry to bother you but can you help with this? See below email chain.
John
From: Lorraine
John From: Katharine Browning <katharine.brownin Sent." 18 March 2025 13-.59 To: John Sorrell < ohn.e.sorrell mail.com>: treasurer lorraine hanslo evilla ehall.co.uk Subjert: March 24 accounts hotmail.co.uk> hanslo ehall.co.uk- Again, please accept my apologies for the long time it's tsken to look over your accounts. I have now spent some timing reviewing the report alongside the bank account statements and the transactions etc on Xero. All looks to be in order, so I'm happy to sign the report. There are a couple of thlngs you could maybe help me wlth though which cropped up: The loss for the year per the report is £6,698, but Xero is showing a loss of £6,245. $0 £453 different. Thls also means that your net a55ets are 3150 different by the same amount. It's not materi31 and so I'm happy to sign off, but it would be useful to understand why there is a differen. If it helps, I think it might be irh the Hall hiring income line. Have you got a recondllation of the balan at the end of the year in prepayrnents. debtors. accruals and the credltor accounts? Just an ex1 file show4ng what makes up the balan at the year end would be great. I've signed the report and will drop it off at your5 John. Could you just remind me of your house number please as I can never remember which one it isl Thanks Katharine Best Wshes Lorraine Bone Treasurer Best Wishes Lorraine Bone Treasurer